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		<title>Comment on The Carly Fiorina Hair Flap by DoubtingThomas</title>
		<link>http://joyofjournalism.com/2010/06/the-carly-fiorina-hair-flap/comment-page-1/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>DoubtingThomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 15:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting point about the the whole &quot;open mike&quot; gaffe concept.

However, you need to consider that there are times when politicans use the &quot;open mike&quot; as an excuse to get something out in public by &quot;accident.&quot;

Two (unconfirmed) instances of this are George H.W. Bush&#039;s remark that &quot;I kicked a little ass&quot; following the Vice Presidential debate in 1984.

The other example would be Bill Clinton&#039;s tirad against Jessey Jackson during the 1992 race -- no, on the Sister Soljah comment, but an ealier incident where he went off on Jackson when confronted by an erroneous report that Jackson had endorsed Tom Harkin. Again, that was another case of an &quot;accident.&quot;

The above examples prove nothing, of course, but if this is something that elected officals use to get things out in the press aren&#039;t they fair game? 

Beyond that, I think it is unavoidable that these things get dicussed in the press, and that is something that is only going to get worse now that we live in the YouTube era.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting point about the the whole &#8220;open mike&#8221; gaffe concept.</p>
<p>However, you need to consider that there are times when politicans use the &#8220;open mike&#8221; as an excuse to get something out in public by &#8220;accident.&#8221;</p>
<p>Two (unconfirmed) instances of this are George H.W. Bush&#8217;s remark that &#8220;I kicked a little ass&#8221; following the Vice Presidential debate in 1984.</p>
<p>The other example would be Bill Clinton&#8217;s tirad against Jessey Jackson during the 1992 race &#8212; no, on the Sister Soljah comment, but an ealier incident where he went off on Jackson when confronted by an erroneous report that Jackson had endorsed Tom Harkin. Again, that was another case of an &#8220;accident.&#8221;</p>
<p>The above examples prove nothing, of course, but if this is something that elected officals use to get things out in the press aren&#8217;t they fair game? </p>
<p>Beyond that, I think it is unavoidable that these things get dicussed in the press, and that is something that is only going to get worse now that we live in the YouTube era.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Thoughtful Discussion Dead? by James McPherson</title>
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		<dc:creator>James McPherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post, Elliot. I happen to be semi-regular watcher of &quot;Washington Week&quot; who finds Rosen&#039;s target to be an odd choice (and I&#039;m also a fan of his). For one thing, in many markets &quot;Week&quot; immediately precedes &quot;The McLaughlin Group,&quot; which offers plenty of &quot;edge&quot; but less enlightenment.
Also related to the talk show idea and coming from that same list of &quot;12 things&quot; is something I&#039;ve long argued for, the idea that Donna Brazille expresses--fewer talking-head pundits from the world of journalism and &quot;more people with genuine expertise.&quot; Who knows, at times that might even include media historians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post, Elliot. I happen to be semi-regular watcher of &#8220;Washington Week&#8221; who finds Rosen&#8217;s target to be an odd choice (and I&#8217;m also a fan of his). For one thing, in many markets &#8220;Week&#8221; immediately precedes &#8220;The McLaughlin Group,&#8221; which offers plenty of &#8220;edge&#8221; but less enlightenment.<br />
Also related to the talk show idea and coming from that same list of &#8220;12 things&#8221; is something I&#8217;ve long argued for, the idea that Donna Brazille expresses&#8211;fewer talking-head pundits from the world of journalism and &#8220;more people with genuine expertise.&#8221; Who knows, at times that might even include media historians.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Tea Party Examined by Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 21:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure it is fair to say the Perot movement did not &quot;change the direction of the country.&quot; Perot put the defecit on the table for discussion, the way no one else did.

That allowed the US to balance its books in the 1990&#039;s. Unfortuantely, fiscal responsiblity was not sustained, but however distasteful he might have been, Perot&#039;s championing of fiscal responsiblity was important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure it is fair to say the Perot movement did not &#8220;change the direction of the country.&#8221; Perot put the defecit on the table for discussion, the way no one else did.</p>
<p>That allowed the US to balance its books in the 1990&#8242;s. Unfortuantely, fiscal responsiblity was not sustained, but however distasteful he might have been, Perot&#8217;s championing of fiscal responsiblity was important.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ESPN: Pardon the Interruption by Emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 01:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say, I absolutely love this website. Maybe you could tell me how I can keeping up to date with it? By the way I stumbled upon your blog through Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say, I absolutely love this website. Maybe you could tell me how I can keeping up to date with it? By the way I stumbled upon your blog through Google.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why is Everybody Against Journalists? by DoubtingThomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>DoubtingThomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 21:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do bring up an interesting point. One of the reasons why the traditional press has such a negative reputation is because there does seem to be a mentality that the guilty are out there, it is just a matter of proving it. (There are other factors, of course, but this is one of them.)

The other factor here is, why is the fact that this &quot;paper&quot; is sponsored by the University of Chicago a problem?

Did people automatically say, &quot;Can NBC News be unbiased given that it is (or was) owned by General Electric?&quot; 

While the potential for conflict of interest does exist for this type of non-profit news arrangement, can the potential conflicts of interest be worse for corporate owned news arrangements?

And this is to say nothing of other up and coming &quot;news&quot; entities such as the NFL Network....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do bring up an interesting point. One of the reasons why the traditional press has such a negative reputation is because there does seem to be a mentality that the guilty are out there, it is just a matter of proving it. (There are other factors, of course, but this is one of them.)</p>
<p>The other factor here is, why is the fact that this &#8220;paper&#8221; is sponsored by the University of Chicago a problem?</p>
<p>Did people automatically say, &#8220;Can NBC News be unbiased given that it is (or was) owned by General Electric?&#8221; </p>
<p>While the potential for conflict of interest does exist for this type of non-profit news arrangement, can the potential conflicts of interest be worse for corporate owned news arrangements?</p>
<p>And this is to say nothing of other up and coming &#8220;news&#8221; entities such as the NFL Network&#8230;.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Why is Everybody Against Journalists? » Joy of Journalism University Intro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 23:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Newsweek on the Block by LarsenBrianna19</title>
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		<dc:creator>LarsenBrianna19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 14:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Newsweek on the Block by Keyan Sanai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keyan Sanai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 17:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My father told me about Newsweek going under on our car ride home back from college. My naive and hopeful response was &quot; well magazines like Time will probably never go under right?&quot;. Not knowing they were tied in together. Although personally the only magazine my household is subscribed to is the New Yorker, I do agree both Time and Newsweek are great magazines, if I am in a dentist office, or doctors office, or any office with a long wait, I always look to pick up and read through the time or Newsweek. I do now know if this should be viewed as technology advancing and evolving in a positive light, or if this is one of the negative by products of technology. The New York Times is soon starting to charge people an account fee for reading their paper online, I think depending on how successful this is, other big companies will do the same. Although, it is the internet after all, maybe online journalism will take the route of music and people will find ways to read the paper without paying. As far as magazines go, if there is something interesting in them, blogs post the magazine article and you can read through the whole article without paying. If you think about it, with most magazines, or newspaper you do not read every article anyway (there are people that are exceptions). Once again the internet has brought another industry to it&#039;s knees. I just hope Time, and Newsweek can stay afloat. 

Ps- Here is a perfect example, I went to a pop culture blog I check, and typed in magazine, you can view all the highlights of the new magazines without actually buying them

http://www.thelifefiles.com/?s=magazine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My father told me about Newsweek going under on our car ride home back from college. My naive and hopeful response was &#8221; well magazines like Time will probably never go under right?&#8221;. Not knowing they were tied in together. Although personally the only magazine my household is subscribed to is the New Yorker, I do agree both Time and Newsweek are great magazines, if I am in a dentist office, or doctors office, or any office with a long wait, I always look to pick up and read through the time or Newsweek. I do now know if this should be viewed as technology advancing and evolving in a positive light, or if this is one of the negative by products of technology. The New York Times is soon starting to charge people an account fee for reading their paper online, I think depending on how successful this is, other big companies will do the same. Although, it is the internet after all, maybe online journalism will take the route of music and people will find ways to read the paper without paying. As far as magazines go, if there is something interesting in them, blogs post the magazine article and you can read through the whole article without paying. If you think about it, with most magazines, or newspaper you do not read every article anyway (there are people that are exceptions). Once again the internet has brought another industry to it&#8217;s knees. I just hope Time, and Newsweek can stay afloat. </p>
<p>Ps- Here is a perfect example, I went to a pop culture blog I check, and typed in magazine, you can view all the highlights of the new magazines without actually buying them</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thelifefiles.com/?s=magazine" rel="nofollow">http://www.thelifefiles.com/?s=magazine</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Newsweek on the Block by DoubtingThomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>DoubtingThomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 17:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting piece on Newsweek. I honestly think that magazines, printed magazines, should have a market.

Every day we are bombarded with streams of information, some useful, some interesting, some relevant, some irrelvant, and some worthless. It is very difficult to disgest these in a meaningful way.

So the idea of a some sort of medium that comes under the premise of, &quot;OK this is what happened last week -- now this is really what was important and here&#039;s why.&quot; (Time served that function well in the 1980&#039;s, until the merger with Warner Brothers at least.)

Now, how to reach that market and build a business model that can survive? Beats me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting piece on Newsweek. I honestly think that magazines, printed magazines, should have a market.</p>
<p>Every day we are bombarded with streams of information, some useful, some interesting, some relevant, some irrelvant, and some worthless. It is very difficult to disgest these in a meaningful way.</p>
<p>So the idea of a some sort of medium that comes under the premise of, &#8220;OK this is what happened last week &#8212; now this is really what was important and here&#8217;s why.&#8221; (Time served that function well in the 1980&#8242;s, until the merger with Warner Brothers at least.)</p>
<p>Now, how to reach that market and build a business model that can survive? Beats me.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Bearing Witness » Joy of Journalism -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
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